the wellingtonista

The Greens: recyclers extraordinaire

Posted by noizyboy on Friday, 31 Oct 2008

This particular Wellingtonista was just down at a protest taking place at the Greater Wellington Regional Council offices.

Of course, the GWRC transport plans (PDF) are well worth protesting about: more roads, no light rail? Despite the hundreds (and the great majority) of submissions asking for the opposite

As Wellington City Councillor and Greens' spokesperson Iona Pannett points out...

The Plan ignores Wellingtonians' huge support for more public transport, their opposition to new tunnels and Wellington City's commitment to carbon neutrality ... Over 4,500 people made submissions on the study the Plan is based on, with 3,750 people supporting light rail, more buses and walking and cycling options whilst opposing the two tunnels and flyover. In contrast only 480 people submitted that the tunnels should be built. So, by a ratio of nearly 8 to 1 there was huge support for public transport and opposition to roads...

Quite.

But, what really caught the eye was the many protesters placards. Not so much the front of them, but the back. It was heartening to see the Greens and their allies recycling (presumably) discarded Real Estate signage upon which to display their protest slogans. Nice.

This is a selective statistic. People who drive their cars don't care about the transport plans. People who would like subsidised transport do.
So, Seamonki - people who drive their cars don't care about the proposal to build more roads and tunnels? They're all just totally happy with the status quo? I think a better way to put it would be, people happy with the plans as they stood didn't tend to write in supporting it - you only speak up when you want something changed.
Just clearing up - Seamonki is not me.
stephen clover's picture

Madness.

I know...
Having read Iona Pannett's reported comments on the plan I must point out that her objections come with their own set of dubious assumptions. The push for environmental air quality (and Co2 emission) improvements due to "light rail" provision is based on the assumption of modal shift. However, the take up of public rail services by vehicle users often has the same result on existing roads that increased road capacity building has: This being that it simply frees up more road space for additional users, thus negating any emissions benefits from modal shift. Other users who previously used public transport because of congestion now return to suing their cars. Additionally I would like to know where light rail services would be run. Tacking rail onto the existing road network (surface sharing) would be far from easy due to the number of right angled and tight intersections that such a route would have to navigate. Cutting these corners would require the acquisition of a number of private properties. It would be interesting to see the number of objections to a light rail proposal, once a route was clearly identified. Pannet has over simplified the issue. While her concerns for the environment are admirable, her transport planning/modelling expertise seems wanting. It seems to me that Pannet has not spent much time reading the plan. She claims "Plan promotes the fantasy that an alternative source of energy to petrol will be found in the future and that we can and should continue to provide ever more road space for drivers." No where does the plan claim this. The plain simply mentions that alternative energy sources MIGHT result in increased car usage. This is a logical truth. The plan does not state this as a design assumption, but merely quotes it as an potential evidential modifier. I find it hard to have confidence in politicians who make these kinds of comments. Although I suspect that media is probably to blame for stirring it up - as usual. And BTW, I voted Green/Green this coming election (by special vote - I'm overseas).
Che Tibby's picture
@phil, the good news is that modern trams (which is what 'light rail means') can turn up to 90degrees to get round corners. in some regards they're a more sensible option that diesel buses. the problem of buying private property to allow the light rail to be put down is minimal at best. but in regards your claim about 'modal shift', this would apply if the number of road users wasn't capped. there can only be a given maximum population living in any of the central city suburbs. while this population might increase in density over time, it isn't like the ever-increasing numbers of people being put into greenfields suburbs. what the argument against better public transport keeps overlooking is that light rail isn't being extended to greater wellington, it's for the central city and immediate surrounds (potentially including johnsonville and kilbirnie). these are suburbs that are just close enough to make efficient public transport a better option that driving. and it's these suburbs the green supporters need to focus on. as it is the council is making "big plans" for a growth corridor that will have bad, noise and stink-polluting diesel buses as the local option. it's a stupid, poorly integrated plan that should be taken out back and given a slap...

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